Let's have a discussion about how badly they mutilated the combat system when they remade the game
First off, I've probably never won a battle in the remake... Considering I've only played it for a few minutes, then switched back to the EGA...
Butchered combat
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, Jul 10 2003 08:38 PM
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Posted 10 July 2003 - 08:38 PM
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Posted 10 July 2003 - 09:28 PM
Combat was pathetic in the remake. A starting fighter could kill a brigand. Now how stupid is that? Where's the challenge? 
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 09:26 AM
I think it's at beating the Ogre, the Troll and Toro... 
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 01:37 PM
It's a sad fact that remakes never JUST update a game... they all seem to alter some of the original things.
Combat is especially vulnerable to being upgraded. Next thing you know, we'll have "bullet-time" QfG. As much as I enjoyed the Matrix's action scenes... no thanks.
Combat is especially vulnerable to being upgraded. Next thing you know, we'll have "bullet-time" QfG. As much as I enjoyed the Matrix's action scenes... no thanks.
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 02:10 PM
I'd play it! Imagine shooting arrows in 'arrow-time'
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 02:16 PM
Actually I found the combat to be fine.
It's not true that a starting hero can kill a brigand, I never did it. Although yes, it's true, you can fight almost all monsters easily once your hero gets tough... with the exception of the Mantray, it was a good fighter at all levels.
And then comes the troll, the troll is tough so that even my big, mighty hero had to dodge and parry his attacks in order to win.
Another thing which made the combat harder was the stamina meter, in every other game, if your stamina meter runs out, they drain from your health points, QFG 1 VGA does that, except in combat you'll die if it runs out, rather than loose health points.
Till next time stay cool
It's not true that a starting hero can kill a brigand, I never did it. Although yes, it's true, you can fight almost all monsters easily once your hero gets tough... with the exception of the Mantray, it was a good fighter at all levels.
And then comes the troll, the troll is tough so that even my big, mighty hero had to dodge and parry his attacks in order to win.
Another thing which made the combat harder was the stamina meter, in every other game, if your stamina meter runs out, they drain from your health points, QFG 1 VGA does that, except in combat you'll die if it runs out, rather than loose health points.
Till next time stay cool
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 02:24 PM
The combat's the main reason why I don't play the VGA version.
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 02:28 PM
It's a pity you can't have "time out" in combat. "Hey, monster, I'm losing stamina here - shall we take a rest?"
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 02:57 PM
Well Orion, your point is made, but I like the EGA version more too, although I do play the VGA, but very occassionally. In fact, I perfect the 'original' version of almost every Sierra game, EXCEPT Leisure Suit Larry, in LSL 1, the VGA was WAAAYYY better.
In any case, my 'favorite' QFG 1 depends on the character class, with the Fighter and Wizard, I prefer the EGA, with the Thief, I play the VGA because I can reach maximum points easier, cause in the EGA version, it's nearly impossible to beat the Chief Thief at dag-nab-it.
Till next time stay cool
In any case, my 'favorite' QFG 1 depends on the character class, with the Fighter and Wizard, I prefer the EGA, with the Thief, I play the VGA because I can reach maximum points easier, cause in the EGA version, it's nearly impossible to beat the Chief Thief at dag-nab-it.
Till next time stay cool
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 03:16 PM
Start fighting around 3:59... Get worn out by 4, then it's Tea Time! Break for a minute, and then it's back to fighting
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 03:27 PM
Huh? 
Till next time stay cool
Till next time stay cool
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 03:29 PM
It's a Britain joke 
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 04:02 PM
Oh ok.
Till next time stay cool
Till next time stay cool
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 05:56 PM
QUOTE (myself)
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I'm Arc Collins, and I'm a Paladin.
I care because I comprehend.
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Posted 11 July 2003 - 06:00 PM
I take it you got the joke, Bob?
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