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KatKat90
hi there! first of all - pardon my english, it isn´t my first language but i´ll do my very best wink.gif

so, recently I installed Quest for Glory V, it worked quite well with setting the combatility to windows 95. I wasn´t able to install the patches, for I was told that the momentary version isn´t valid or whatever, but I could start the game without them anyhow.

BUT then i faced several problems

1) strange thing...Wolfie ist now called Jean-Luc and the Banker Sam Kalle confused.gif

2) I could´nt visit Erasmus. I kicked that magic hat but only bruised my toe...nothing happened. I tried several times, it never worked. (Before he got drugged)

3) Well known problem - Minos dead kind of "freezes" everything
I tried many things which were advised, but nothing helped. I tried to change the settings with quicktime player, to switch to combatility windows2000 and to install the old version of quicktime player from the install disc (i have to confess...i was unable to do that but I doubt it would help) But if you can tell my how to do this I would try it though wink.gif

If anyone could give me an advice how to fix these problems (but 1 and 2 aren´t that important, it is the problem with minos that´s driving me insane) i´d be very very thankful!

best wishes
KatKat90
Elsa Von Spielburg
Hello Kat and welcome to our community smile.gif

I'm sorry but I'm not good with technical stuff so hopefully someone else, like Collector, should be able to help you better smile.gif

As far as the patches go, Collector made a 64-bit compatible executable that works in Vista and there is also a compatibility patch you can use for Windows XP/Vista. It's at the downloads section of our main site.

The topic for Collector's new executable file is here: http://www.questformoreglory.com/forums/in...?showtopic=2684

I'll add it to the Downloads section if he allows it smile.gif

And as far as the English language goes...don't worry about it cause I'm Greek wink.gif lol.gif
Ghost_Rider
Hi there,

If you could also let us know a little bit about your system, that would be helpful too. Many people are onto Windows Vista now, but some of us are still holding out and sticking with XP (such as myself). I had a bit of trouble getting QFG5 to run properly, but after trial and error found the best settings for my system.

The 1.1 / 1.2 patches do help, as does the Win2K patch.
KatKat90
@elsa
thanks smile.gif i´ll try it with this combatility patch

@qhost_rider
My operating system is windows xp! 32bit I guess...I just don´t get it with that technique stuff...It still overtakes me that I´ve been able to install it at all wink.gif but maybe because I mixed up different ways off how to install it it was messed up at the end.


i hope collector can help me wink.gif
Ghost_Rider
In order to get QFG5 running properly on my machine, this is what I had to do:

1) Install the game, run the 1.1 patch, 1.2 patch, and the Win2K patch.
2) Make a shortcut to the game on my desktop, and then right-click on that icon.
3) On the compatibility tab, I chose the following settings:
- Run program in compatibility mode for: Windows 2000
- Run in 640 x 480 screen resolution
(I did not have to choose the 256 color mode, that actual made it worse when I tried that)

The Windows 2000 mode seemed sort of silly, but Win95 and Win98 modes both shut down the game when I tried to run it. It was the last one I tried, and to my surprise it was the one that actually worked.

I'm running WinXP Pro on a single processor @ 2.53GHz
I have an ATI Radeon 9700 graphics card and SB Live sound card

Hopefully this helps! smile.gif
KatKat90
ok, I think I have no other choice. I´ll have to reinstall it...I´ll try it your way! Thanks for the hint ghost rider!

But as I remember the game wouldn´t run with the compatibility windows2000...however the patches could not be installed neither..but, maybe if i do it once more from the top it´ll work...hopefully wink.gif

did you ever had the same problem with that minos freeze?

edit: well...that has been quite an adventure...first I compatibilitied the wrong thing...my computer just freaked out and everything on my desktop looks em...huge. whatever...I compablahblahted another icon and that worked, i set it to windows 95, otherwise I could´nt even install it and I chose the standard installation or shall I take the full one?

and now i cannot run the two patches because of that "no valid previous version"
but the win2k stuff worked.

is that enough or shall I try it again with another compatibility or installation?
Ghost_Rider
Hi there,

The compatibility mode really just needs to be set after you have installed the game. It's probably best to make a shortcut to the QFG5.exe file, and set the compatibility on that shortcut.

It sounds like you might have tried to set the compatibility on the install file or something, which you should probably avoid doing, as it sounds like it caused your computer to take a nose dive.

For the 1.1 / 1.2 patches, I do not remember exactly, but you might have to copy those files into your QFG5 directory and run them from there. The "no valid previous version" message makes me think you tried running them from another directory, and the files could not find the QFG5 game. The Win2K patch may be written so that it looks for the game and then runs the update. I'd recommend installing the 1.1 / 1.2 patches as it fixes a number of bugs in the game.

Also, I should have asked this before, but do you have the two CD set for the game with the install and the game CDs? Or are you playing a downloaded version of the game?
KatKat90
hi.

the trouble ist that I cannot install it without setting the compatibility...without it, when i press "install" the dragon makes some noise but then nothing happens.

and yes you´re right...i set compatibility on the install file :/...don´t ask me why...
and i saved the files into a different directory...but when they asked me where to unpack it, the correct directory was shown...but I´ll retry it your way.

I have the original two CD set!

another thing...I´ve been told that people like me, who are totally not familiar with such techniques, are hated. I´m sorry for that and I´d like to say that I really appreciate your patience and helpfulness. I´m very thankful!

Edit: I did as you told me, I ran the patches from the same directory as the game, but it didn´t work neither. And I still can´t play the game with compatibility windows2000 but I read somewhere that the win2k patch needs to be tun with the windows2000 comp.

I read some threads in this forum and I found out that I only had 3 videos too, like some other users. so i reinstall it with full version, now I have 6 movies (biggest one 70mb). I can play them from the directory but when i try to play the intro it tells me to insert the install cd. I heard of this problem before and that it can be solved with this windows2000 comp but as I said before I can´t start the game with comp. windows 2000.

I fear there is nothing I can do to solve these problems, at least I didn´t found a solution that would work for me...*sigh*
Ghost_Rider
Don't worry, I don't think anyone hates someone who needs help with QFG games around here. The group is pretty happy to help people out as much as we can. I'm also happy to hear that you have the game CDs. We are not really open to helping people which have illegal copies of the game, and besides, they tend to not work as well as the legal versions.

It has been quite a while since I have had to install the game, but I don't think I had any trouble with it telling me to put the install CD in the drive. If it is doing that, it sounds like it thinks there is a critical file missing, and it is expecting you to install the game. When you uninstalled it the last time, did you pick a different directory this time? I'm wondering if there is still something somewhere that is pointing at a different directory.

The Win2K patch was designed to help the game work on computers running Windows 2000 as you said, but it also helps to make it run better with newer operating systems (as far as I can tell). I had trouble running the game until I ran the Win2K patch on my WinXP machine.

What you could try doing is installing the game, and running it with the 1.2 patch, but without the Win2K patch. At this point it might be worth a try running it without the Win2K patch just to see if that works any better.

Hopefully someone else might be able to help out some more here. Let me know if you get any further and I'll see what else I can do to help. Just remember not to smash your computer if you get frustrated. smash.gif
KatKat90
thanks smile.gif

The trouble with the patches is that i´m not able to run them. the computer tells me then that the previous version isn´t valid or whatever...I´ve already read about that problem but didn´t find a solution that might help me. I saved them in the same directory as the game, but it didn´t work neither. Is there anything else i could do to make them work?

When I installed the game first I played it without the win2k patch, it has been the same with the minos problem, so don´t think that it is the wink2k patch that´s making all the trouble.

I tried it with the newest version of quick time player and with the old one, and i played it with full installation and with the standart one. I don´t know what else to try, maybe I should smash my computer though wink.gif

Ghost_Rider
smile.gif I wouldn't recommend smashing your computer, then you won't be able to play *any* games at all. eek.gif

I did a little bit of reading and it looks like the 1.1 patch is not necessary. The 1.2 patch should fix everything that the 1.1 patch fixes, plus the dead bodies being left in the arena (which the 1.1 patch does not fix). In addition, it is recommended on a few information sites that the Win2K patch be run after you have installed the 1.2 patch. I haven't seen anything that says running the Win2K patch before the 1.2 patch will cause problems, but it seems that you should do 1.2 first, then Win2K after.

It sounds like you have tried uninstalling and re-installing the game, and running the 1.2 patch without the Win2K patch, so that rules out that having been the problem. When you install the game, what folder is it in? I wonder if the system is picky about where it expects to find the game. I have mine installed in: C:\Sierra\QFG5
KatKat90
mine is the same C:\SIERRA\QFG5

when i try to run the 1.2 patch, there appears following message: "The file C:\SIERRA\QFG5\QFG5.exe is not a valid previous version and could not be upgraded"

I really don´t understand what this means...I took a look at it and the current version is 1.1.0.0 (without any patches, has been like that since installation) edit: found out that the german version is 1.1 from the outset, but that doesn´t explain why the patches dont work?

could it be that my exe file is damaged or something?

edit: I read the thread where someone has had the same problem as me, but it seems like he had an illegal version, mine is the original two Cd set. I can proof it if you want, maybe with a photo or something.
Ghost_Rider
Hi Kat,

I am not sure if the 1.2 patch will actually change the version number of your QFG5.exe file. I checked mine and it says it is v 1.1.0.0 which is the same as yours shows. I double-checked to make sure I have the 1.2 patch installed and I do, so either you already have the 1.2 patch installed, or the version number simply does not change at all. However, I am thinking you already have the patch installed, because unpatched it appears the version number is 1.0.0.2.

It's ok, you don't need to show us proof that you own the CDs unless you are asking someone to send you a copy. In the past we have had people tell us their CDs, or one of the CDs is scratched, but before anyone volunteers to ship a copy we ask to see proof. Since you are just asking for technical assistance, we'll take your word for it that you own the game. smile.gif

When you uninstalled the game and re-installed it, did you make sure that all of the files from your QFG5 folder had been deleted? It could be that it did not fully uninstall. The "not a valid previous version and could not be upgraded" error you are getting saying that there isn't a previous version installed may very well be because you have the patched version of the QFG5.exe file already. The patch may not run again once it is already "patched" into the game. In other words it might just run the one time, and then give you that message if you try to run it a second time.
KatKat90
hm...No, I´m quite sure that I´ve deleted everything. I also installed it on my laptop, where I´ve never got that game installed before.
I think mine is only 1.1.0.0 because I have the "german version"
I´ve tried it with the link Elsa sent me, which lead me to that kind of patch from collector. It didn´t change anything except that the menue and some other things are a mix of english and german, unfortunately...

It´s a pity because I hoped that If I would be able to do it right with the patches then I could get rid of that problem with minos fall.

I´ll try to run it on linux, because I´ve been told that linux can make a better imitation of windows 95/98 than windows does. And uninstall everything I have vom QFG5 just to try it, maybe you´re right. Maybe I´ll even cut the piece out of my desktop where the icon had been wink.gif
Ghost_Rider
I like your sense of humour thumbs.gif I would not have thought to cut out part of the desktop.

I had a look around, but I don't see a German version of the patch anywhere online. I'll keep an eye out for that. I wonder if anyone else here has the German version of the game and have also tried installing the patches. I'm not sure, but maybe they are only fully compatible with the English version?

Sometimes it seems that games just won't run, no matter what you do. The only one I gave up on was Aces of the Deep. No matter what I did, I could never get it to run properly on this machine. DosBox, different settings, I tried everything, but still just crashes all of the time. Well, now that I have my own place, maybe I'll go looking for a used 486 computer or something. Old games run best on old machines. smile.gif

Hopefully the Linux test works out for you and you can get the game running better that way. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you! beerchug.gif
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