Actually, I don't remember EVER beating Swordy Lordy in the VGA version of QfG1.

I've been replaying QfG1 Remake on my Pentium 3, and was using CPUKiller in an attempt to slow it down enough to enable me to beat the stuffing out of the weapons master. But... it's still not working. My character ends up dying of exhaustion.

1. This is not because he's not in perfect health. He is. Vigour and health are at peak levels.
2. Strength, weapons use, dodge, parry - everything is at peak levels - 100.
3. My character's not overloaded. Just in case, I dropped the armour as well.

I saved the character and tried playing it on my 486. STILL no luck! For every 1 swing or thrust my character's able to complete, Swordy Lord has 2.

So... is anyone able to play my character for me? Only if you're able to defeat the weapons master, of course... if you've done it before and are confident of doing it again without too much of a hassle... Let me know, and I'll send my saved game and the saved game index.

Hopefully

- Almirena

I did beat him once, and that was about 11 years ago, it was on my original 386 computer, with 1MB of RAM, I forgot the Mhz I had, but it wasn't too much. This was the only time I ever beat Swordy Lordy.

Here's my preferance of game version.

For the Thief, it's the VGA, since he can beat the Chief Thief with ease.

For the Fighter, it's the EGA, so he can have a chance at defeating Swordy.

For the Wizard, either one, it doesn't matter much.

Till next time stay cool

I seem to remember beating him once too. It required some perfect timing and a hell of a lot of luck. As you can see each of his hits moves you back a lot, whereas yours do practically nothing to him. Even when you dodge and parry you still seem to get knocked back. So, here is the solution: Fight. Don't click rapidly since it won't do any better. Try to time your hits to move him back the most (I don't remember when the best times for these are). I can't remember is dodging/parrying was ever useful... if it is, use it! His hits do way too much to ignore. But the most important thing is: Hope he misses a lot.

I beat him once, by sheer dumb clicking. I wasn't using a computer that was that slow, but that was a while ago...

Parry seems to be the best bet if you do not want to be driven to far back when he attacks, otherwise I must say faith and prayer don't work, as a spokesman for the Athiests and Agnositcs who by some wierd chance have beaten swordy lordy, I have spoken!

I have already tried so much that my right arm grew numb with clicking the mouse button...

But I have such an obsessive personality that I'll probably try again.

Beating him would be very, very hard Almirena. Even with an older computer, I think we should just let this go.

Till next time stay cool

I've defeated him every time with every class in HQ

That's the EGA version, it doesn't have the same timer problems. And yes, I too beat him with every class

Till next time stay cool

I know... I just felt like saying something in here.... I hadn't posted here yet, and this thread felt left out

Or you're just helping me increase my post count

Till next time stay cool

Aye!

*talks to imaginary parrot on his shoulder*

The lad's startin' ta catch on to us!

*directs attention to PL*

To the Plank with ye!

YARR!!!

Your post count is too high, and I've mostly given up spamming, so I'll never catch up, but that's not an issue now is it? I'll get there before I go to bed!

Till next time stay cool

You two are both crazy.

*blush*

Why thank you PW! I feel more secure now that one more person knows the truth!

i beat him it wasn't to hard but it took along time and my finger got tried but i beat him on a fast computer i just used the fast attack just click the button as fast as you can, but i don't see the point i beat him cause i just needed 8 more puzzle points for the max and he didn't give me any

No it doest matter.
There's a timer-related problem linked with Erasmus' labyrinth game too.

LOL! I never thought I could actually fight the Weapons Master (not to beat him too!)

I just thought it was like some sort of cut scene and the Hero got his practice and that's it

Ah well I guess I need an older computer from that P1 I have to get the full thing

Unless you are playing as a Fighter I wouldn't even recommend wasting the money, time, or gaining stress when dealing with him.

not worthed e?

Your character gets no points for beating the Weapons Master UNLESS you're a fighter.

There really isn't any point at all in a mage or a thief defeating the WM, especially since the timer difficulties make this so ludicrously hard.

Hi!

Here 's what I did to beat the Weapon Master in QFG1vga

1. Use DosBox to slow the game. Check other posts for details.

2. Heal-up fully before you fight him. Drop all items on the ground, inlcuding chainmail armor, money, everything. Just keep 10 silvers to pay the jerk (you don't want to give him a gold coin do you?).

3. Walk to the right side of the Weapon Master. Pay him.

4. The fight begins, but rather than using the mouse, use the keyboard. Just press and HOLD '9' on the keypad and you'll trust your sword endlessly.

5. If the Weapon Master don't push you back, you'll beat him. PICK-UP all your items after the fight.

I only lost 30 stamina points doing this! My stats were all 100 BTW.

Hope this help.


Nexgen

P.S.: I have to thank you guys, 'cause it's on this website that I learned of DosBox!

I was able to beat him before my stats were fully maxed and by fighting normally (parry/dodge and thrust combos) because DOSBox fixed the timer issues for me.

Yeah, DosBox rules!!

Till next time stay cool

i beat him i had all my stats max expect climbing that was at 86 i just hit the thurst button realy realy realy fast but it took i like 8minites and i had to change fingers cause they got tried but i beat him and i was pissed cause he didn't give u anything not even puzzle points and the ownly reason i fought him was i needed 8 more points to get 500

I've never had to use Dosbox. But then again this computer only has a 400mhz P2.

i didn't use dosbox and i was a thief

Then you didn't even need to fight him.

Ok, I'M REALLY sounding like a broken record here... BUT
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcad...s/Downloads.htm
has a patch for QFG1VGA SCI fixes, which solves the timing issue involved with the Weapon Master... and other timing issues...

QFG1VGA was in my Quest for XP Glory, easily the most well behaved of the series, the only two problems I had was the annoying, but equally unimportant Weapons Master, and ther fatally impossible to get around door in Yorick's Maze, which are both solved admirably by the patch...

Hey Paladin Wizard, you still thinking about hosting the patches?

Yes, I'm in the process of uploading them and redoing my site for them.

A bit late reply but for further reference .....

All you have to do to beat the weaponmaster with a fast computer is to temporarily drop your chainmailarmour (I suppose you shouldn´t be overloaded as well), if not he will move faster than you and it´s close to impossible to win. After that, just keep attacking him.

No, that does not work. It certainly didn't work for me on my computer (which is NOT the latest model by any means!).

There are two ways to get through this problem, and in fact to make the problem disappear:

1. Play in DOSBox.
2. Use the NewRisingSun patch.

Ideally, do both. That is, use the NewRisingSun patch AND play in DOSBox. It completely does away with the timer bugs.

Hmm... when I think about it some more you are probably correct. I HAVE used a patch at some point, but DosBox shouldn´t be necesary (tried on 3 computers of very differnt age)

As I have said elsewhere it didn't work for me. I have the patch and played that part on DOSBox, very nearly came to defeating him but even 100 stamina pts lost ultimately. I have started a new game and will continue until I get those 8 missing points to the final score *hehe* .

With the patch installed he goes from being about 10 times as fast to just a little bit quicker (at least for me). Then I just drop all my stuff and I get the edge. I don´t see why that wouldn´t be the case for the rest of you as well.

What exactly do you mean by dropping 'all my stuff'? Do you just drop everything in your inventory? I wonder how that helps unless you are carrying more than you can !

You will still move slower if carrying a lot of weight even if you are not overloaded. It´s too hard to tell the breaking point exactly, but at a strength of 79 I was able to carry 79 pounds and was able to defeat the guy while carrying half of my maximum weight. 50 made me just a little bit too slow, so just drop your heavy things (like armour) and it should be a piece of cake.

Ok will remember it when I come to that point again, as I have said I've started the game again. It'll take time .

You'll need to get your fighting stats up as high as possible, Grand Dad - only take on the Weapons Master when you are dashing, strong, fast and wonderful!

But Al my dear I AM dashing and wonderful *blush*, and had raised my three vital stats to the max 100 (isn't that the max in QFG I?) - Strength, Stamina and Weapon! Nearly defeating him thrice but... .
Have started once again and this time I AM determined to beat him at his own game .

Peace!!!

Good luck - this part of the game obsessed me in the dark period before DOSBox or NewRisingSun's patches!

I guess I haven't played the VGA version since I don't remember the part, but in the original you just needed to have good enough stats and full stamina, then just attack (press button down, hold) until you won. Maybe I should try to remake sometime soon again, since I apparently didn't play it as a fighter. I do remember playing it as a thief and mage, though...

Now, I just need to finish my time-freeze machine, so I'll have time to play computer games again, seems I've been keeping too busy for them for a while now. It's not that I don't have enough time, it's just that I used it for different things nowadays.

O by the way is the NewRisingSun's Patch the same that Sierra supplied with the game? Or do I get it here on QFMG?

The NRS patches are not official, they are fan made. Still, they work better than the few official patches out there. All patches and whatnot should be on the download page on the main site, or at least were at some point.

I just can't open any of the main sites at the top, especially Downloads/Game Help/Walkthroughs etc . Keep getting error message...page cannot be opened!

Click here to get the patches you need for the old Sierra games. Follow the instructions and you should be fine.

Thanks Darian, will try 'Here" your site?

Nope, that's NewRisingSun's site, hence we call the patches NRS-patches, since he made them.

Funny, when I downloaded it I discovered i already had it...thanks anyway!

Peace!!!