Please make your choice and tell us why.

I voted for Katrina. In the game my hero actually marries all three women availible for the deeds. I always find it hard to choose between Erana & Katrina.

But I would like to see Katrina living happily with the child(ren) she has always desired. Because I think she would be happy with the hero.



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On a side note, this was my 1900 post!

Katrina!!!

Need I go into detailed descriptions of leather and whips?

Katrina!!! *swoon*



Ain't she dreamy!

*swoons*

Anyone except Nawar, who's a tart.

This isn't a big issue for me. I don't have a personal stake in the choice... it's just a game! <grins>

I never get married. I'd rather be a swinger and go after every last pretty girl in every bar!!

"Hey baby, wanna stroke my 'other' sword?"

Till next time stay cool

You mean that's letter opener in your pocket?

Matchstick.

A needle?

noodle? ::smiles::

I be voted for Erana! short, petite and pointy ears! ::jumps up and down:: yay!

Those are some good reason to vote for Erana.

I voted for Erana. Why? Well...because I could.

I also married Erana. Why? Because she's hawt!

They're all hot.

If I were to choose it'd be Erana...definitely not Katrina, don't want my neck punctured hot or no hot

Well, it depends on what class my Hero is:

For my Thief and Fighter the choice is Elsa

For the Wizard and Paladin the choice is Erana

A Griffin's feather or maybe a quill Paladinlover?

Funny girls wanting a bride How about a grooms choice next time...Fenrus perhaps?

I'd say Erana, not only is she a paragon of goodness, but she is also gorgeous.

I tried every hero class (e.g. fighter, wizard, etc.) just so I could attempt to marry the person whom that hero class is supposed to marry (i.e. fighter with Elsa, wizard with Katrina, thief with Nawar, paladin with Erana). I just wanted to see how they would react and what challenges each would throw. Of course, this took a rather long time.

Either Katrina or Erana. I can't really choose (which in real life probably would result in losing both).

But I personally think Nawar gets too much bad rap. She's a terrible tease, but seems to be very serious when there's talk of marriage.

So Rath did you succeed in marrying anyone <hehehe>? Talking about teases what about Dinarzad...lovely to look at but her 'intimate exchanges' are restricted to money! Knows how to flirt tho.

Yes, Grand Dad, I succeeded in marrying all four eligible brides in QG5 - though I did not do so at the same time. There would have been mass confusion at the altar had my hero tried to marry three* women all at the same time.

* Yes, I am aware that there are four eligible brides in QG5, but you can't marry Erana and Katrina at the same time. So nyah. *G*

I got them married to all the brides (not alltogether of course!)

But I'm not sure if I actually managed to get any of my characters married to Katrina yet. Seems to be difficult somewhat....

That would be a nice addition to the depravity of the new king of Silmaria: being the Chief Thief and married to three women.

Wow! Three women, my my it was difficult to handle one...THREE INDEED!

Well... You see... He missed his own personal Harem his father gave him back home in Shapeir...

I was disappointed with Nawar. They just didn't make her formidable enough. If I'd felt more sincerity when she accepted the ring, I'd have picked her for my theif...



As much as I suspect that Nawar was N in the Chief Theif contest, they really could have done more to show that she was the hero's equal and a fitting queen.



Anyone else notice that Erana will marry the guys she has the kiss dreams with in Shadows? I tend to pick her for my wizards and pals.


Up until this point, the hero has drawn the most meaning from his relationship with Erana, even though he'd never seen her. Within Q4G5, Elsa gets the most plot-time.

Regrettably I don't (yet) have QFG V so I have no idea of your inconstant Nawar,
and as I have said elsewhere, I have never liked playing the Thief hence the only other Chiefs of the Thieves Guilds I know of are 1. the beautiful Dinarzad and 2. the villainous Ferrari. Erana for me any day...she's promised to me in QFG IV... except that I have to wait untill Dragon Fire.

Another girl that I may have preferred is Janna except she's already married...but what a gal, so passionate and as someone said so "hawt" <disappointment galore>.

I would have to choose Katrina, just because she was awesome and vampires are pretty cool...plus that whole sacrificing herself to save you...that goes a long way, and what is more fitting to a Hero than a Heroic bride?

Erana is a good choice too, but I think that Erana was just too big for the hero (it always seemed that Erana was more God-like than human, so I figgure she should stay that way)

Elsa is pretty cool, and she would probably be my second choice, as the Hero knows Elsa very well, and Elsa is a kick Equus asinus name.

Nawar is a whore.....so who better to marry her than a paladin? (betcha didn't see that one coming)

But really now...we all know who everybody secretly wants to choose....none other than the Baba Baby, Baba Yaga!

Congrats Jonesy...you deserve the Baba Baby

The whole marriage issue is rather boring for me... None of the relationships really requires a lot of work. There are simply tasks to do with which to fulfil the "Quest for Bride" if you want to call it that, except of course that there are restrictions based upon your character class.

But... I'd like to have seen, for instance, Katrina turn the hero into a toad if he tries to flirt with her after also flirting with, say, Nawar... It simply isn't possible to hide marital insincerity and multiple proposals in such a small island as Marete! How could the hero hope to get away with it? That's why, when playing the hero, I always focused upon one potential bride, no more. And that, really, only for the points. I didn't feel the hero knew any of the women well enough for marriage.

Perhaps the one who was LEAST unknown was actually Katrina. There are some touching moments between Devon and Katrina in QfG4, and there's no doubt that Katrina sacrificed herself for the hero's safety. Perhaps the relationship started out as a mere exercise in deception, but it certainly ended sincerely. In terms of that personal emotional involvement, I do believe that Katrina is the best choice.

There was no hint at all of Elsa and Devon being romantically attracted to each other. And if the game creators had wanted to make that more convincing, QfG5 would have needed to be much bigger, and to have more opportunity for the relationship to develop. Giving a few flowers and accepting her help in dealing with the Hydra doesn't cut it for me, really...

Erana is no doubt a lovely character, but there's been absolutely NOTHING to indicate a personal interest. Devon obviously respected her memory a great deal, as a "paladin in all but name", but the first time he met her in any significant way was really after releasing her from Hades' oblivion (if he chooses her rather than Katrina). She then shoots off to an island. The hero can visit her, but honestly, have you READ their dialogue??? Is anything meaningful said? Do they truly become acquainted with each other's dreams and goals? Do they really meet on a personal level? I... don't... think... so...

Thus I do not believe the hero and Erana know each other well enough at all to even THINK of becoming married. The hero saved her, yes... but that's a beginning, not a completion.

And Nawar? <shrug> In my view, she's just a compulsive flirt and clearly an experienced hussy. It would be the "Pretty Woman" scenario which to me is utterly, utterly, utterly unconvincing. There's just something truly weird about a man marrying a prostitute... and that is how Nawar appears to me. Some might perceive her differently, but that's my view. I thought that having Nawar as the thief's prospective bride was the strangest, most bizarre bride choice possible. It would have made a LOT more sense to bring back Dinarzad as a bride choice. Yes, she was a flirt, but not an "I'm anyone's" type of flirt such as Nawar seems to be. Dinarzad is an ELEGANT flirt, and I would imagine that all that female pulchritude and witty one-liner stuff would be attractive to a man who would like to continue being a member of the Thieves' Guild, without having the certainty that at least half his legal children aren't his by blood, which seems to me the likely outcome of a marriage with Nawar.

Their personal involvment goes back to QFG4 where you could contact her through your dreams near the staff or in her garden. Remember in QFG5 where she was talking about how she met someone in her dreams who kept her company in the darkness of Avoozl, letting her know that there was hope, and she fell in love with him. They've bared their souls to one another.

"Bared" their souls...

DB, out of curiosity I copied LrdPhoenix's sentence into Word 2003 (fully updated version) and it did not find anything wrong with that sentence.

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:
Main Entry: bare
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): bared; bar·ing
: to make or lay bare : UNCOVER

I know. It's not grammar or spelling that's incorrect. It's just someone might take it the wrong way, if you know what I mean.

Oddly, I semi-understand you D-Boy

But see what you got yourself into You make a simple comment about (or laugh at) a word in a post, and people assume something was wrong

I'll try to settle down.

It's settled then; but it's not the way it's taken by someone BUY they way it's said! Too many IT'S here But again it seems rather half-hearted a concession rather. I hope you see what I mean?

well, i almost trully understand and agree with almirena. one thing in mind ... who is devon ... i don't think there's anyone named devon in any of quest of glory series ... he5.

Devon Aidendale is the stock, generic name for our beloved Hero. IIRC, that's what his name was to be, before they made it where he's Player named

When a story is written the hero has to have a name, call it a generic name if you will. But you become the Hero when you play the QFG series I-V. In that respect this game is different from other RPGs where you can't change the name...you simply manipulate the hero towards a successful end.

And if I may dare to contradict some eminent personalities, Erana does promise herself in the end of Shadows "it'll require greater magic than this before we can be together" or words to that effect...she recalls the embraces and kisses albeit they were in dreams BUT she does remember them. But the were they really dreams or a contact between two soul in love?

Again it's pity I haven't played Dragon Fire to contribute more positively to this discussion

Perhaps our Hero made a contact with the Limbo reality Erana was trapped in while he slept - that would be why they both remember the dreams Kindof like a psychic connection between the two!

Psychic too yes! But more of two souls in love and in contact, and I don't subscribe to the idea of contact in Limbo! Unless there's a contratiction in the story Erana dies only when driving the Darkness, sacrifices herself to protect Mordavia. (Everyone, including Zara and Erasmus, say that she lived a long ago - no one says she died a long time ago). Their, the Hero's and Erana's contact starts in QFG 1 and continues directly until the end, except they don't meet in Trial by Fire - although the Hero does get info about her.

He is first introduced to Erana's Staff in Wages of War. In any case it a story of love. Hence my choice

Actually Grand Dad, Erana must have died - the Physical death.

But acording to the story, she trapped her soul into her staff so that she could finish Avoozl off before departing.

"must have died" etc is pure speculation If she did die a"Physical" death how could she "trap her soul in the staff"? This is illogical even for a Spellcaster, Mage or Wizard. She could have hidden herself in the staff or something like that in order to perform the ultimate sacrifice of her life to drive the darkness back, but certainly not after her death.

In any case my premise is not the story in the manual, but the reality of the games.

Well, if she had forseen that something like that could happen, she may have set up a contingency plan. How many necromancers are there that set things up so if they die, they can come back as an undead wizard? (God knows I've come up with hundreds in other games...) Why not let the good guys do it for a change?

It's kinda weird to have a GOOD undead wizard. Maybe Erana did what the Emperor did in Star Wars and used a clone...

Well that's enough speculation about Erana's state I refuse to believe that she is either resurrected or emerges as 'the Living Undead"

The facts as they are in QFG remain unchanged by what what we think

Elsa: She's a badass. She makes Lara Croft look like a shapely statue of gun-totting crap.

Plus, she's really independent, and I don't like women who are... hmm, gold diggers and Submissive. She's neither. Which is mainly why I really hated Nawar.

I also like Katrina because it shows the power of love: After all, it defeated Vampirism.

Maybe, but Hosea did so, and displayed a love both true and beautiful. A model of God's love for His people. And that's not something I would call wierd.

Even so, I wouldn't call Nawar a prostitute, or even suggest that she would be unfaithful. She may be a flirt, but she does seem to commit to the hero, and is steadfast in repelling any advances he makes until they are married. Her motives aren't money, and she is truly searching for love. Or rather, love as she sees it. She may be "blunt," but to say that makes her a whore is going too far, I think.

As for Erana, you can definitely find a personal interest in Shadows if you sleep at the staff or garden enough times to go through all the dreams. You may not be going on a "traditional" date, but there definitely is a connection.

Even so, it was first, and most often is Katrina that my hero comes to love. *sniff* It still crushes me to think that my thiefly hero, who would give anything for her, is rejected. Ah me! Even when he finds she has betrayed him, he still would have sacrificed everything for her. He would rather have died then see her dead at the end of Shadows, and when the time came when he could sacrifice his own life if only she could have another chance at hers, he did so willingly. But those mean nothing, for she doesn't know his heart, only his actions. With a harsh rebuke, she turns him away, and crushes his heart to dust. To think, he had hoped she might understand. But no, there is no forgiveness and no chance of explanation, only bitter rejection...

My heart weeps for you dear Tallin What a pity she turns out to be vampire a the darkest of 'dark Masters'...you do hope, almost fall in love, when you first meet her in the cave But then, of course, you 'meet' Erana and all else is forgotten

And Larry...you are too harsh on poor Elsa...you never get to meet or know her her really. She does help you though, much as she can, before rushing back to her father and her real self Rather unfair of Lori She's good looker anyway